Junction box volume with plaster ring plus#
Well I learned what a too small fan does to walls with this house plus I like a warm bathroom when I am showering. Just running these 12/2 lines from the attic down to the basement and then the panel is going to send me back tonight to pick up anther couple of $150 rolls of romex.Īnd that ceiling fan Jim was asking about.
I am still not using a lot but my little remodel of a porch mud room and bathroom costs hundreds of dollars every time a go to Lowe's.
Copper cable yes when I had a farm with building far apart and a deep well but all the parts never seemed to add up to much. I think that is where the problem occurs. I did have to laugh at the cost comparison. Which changes (reduces) the need for staples. To enter Romex into a standard metal box, you knock out a KO and bring it in via a cable clamp, which are laughably cheap and do a really good job clamping, actually. So for metal or plastic to make sense, you have to frame-shift into the other's thinking. Pushing them into a goofy box that is much more expensive.Ĭonversely, "metal people" seek out this silliness with its silly price, or for a 4x4 with with integral 1-gang mud ring, this wackiness with its wacky price. "Plastic people" ignore my 99 cent mainstay box, and look for built in gangs and cable clamps and mounting flanges. They evolved in completely different directions, and that prejudices each kind of person. I might feel differently if I wired 8 houses a week. (don't blame plastic for "shortage pricing"). vs the blue plastic boxes ( 99 cents normally) and the orange "wish" boxes ( 99 cents) I failed to grasp the cost benefit of plastic. Last time I compared my everyday 4x4x1-1/2" drawn steel box (99 cents normally) or Handy-Box same price. Only need to last til closing papers are signed, won't be around for failures or house fires. Things that can barely be called cable clamps. Whereas plastic boxes are highly optimized for rapid assembly-line assembly - wiring 8 houses a week instead of 4. You can "dial the cubic inches" by bumping up to 4-11/16" or 6" metal boxes, or by stacking extension boxes, or by using domed covers or mud rings which add cubic inches. Metal boxes are well optimized to have blank covers. Versus, the thrifty part of your brain that seeks low price.īut you're absolutely correct. Click to expand.It's the part of your brain that knows boxes are required for good reasons, and metal is better at every single one of those reasons.
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